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mchad21
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:05 am |
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:14 am Posts: 58
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ok, starting to get it. I could not find the limit switch to reset; I originally thought the reason the heater would not go back on (after I turned it down from 110) was because the limit switch tripped. I looked around and couldn't find it, so I assumed it was internal.
Then when the thermostat did kick on again, I figured everything was fine. Apparently it was not, and maybe that switch needs to be found and reset.
The original problem was the sticky thermostat, which needs to be replaced. But the heater will not heat back up to where the switch is 'stuck' at 110, beacause the limit switch needs to be reset ...??
Still don't understand why the heater came on in the first place if the limit switch was not reset...?
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inhotwater
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Post subject: Overheat Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:16 am |
Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:18 pm Posts: 108
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Hi mchad21,
There is the possibility that the high limit is self resetting. I am used to a bi-metal plate with a "Push to reset" button.
If a physical sticking of the points occour, then you can smack the spa side, and jar loose the points.
If the high limit trips, then the amperage across the points dies, and the points may seperate. If this happens after the switch trips, then you have the scenario as now.
Otherwise, the element may have failed, etc.
You said the spa is 95 degrees. It may be that it is not heating at all, and the 95 degrees is residual temperature supported by the equipment byproduct heat.
( Geesh it sounds like I'm Grasping for it now EH?) 
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mchad21
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:39 am |
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:14 am Posts: 58
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yeah, I don't think it is heating at all. That was my assumption. The temp now is just what is left over from when it hit 110.
I will post picks of the internal box tomorrow. Thanks for all the great info and have a great night !
Hopefully we can figure it out tomorrow.
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mchad21
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:51 pm |
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:14 am Posts: 58
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charger_1
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:28 pm |
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:27 am Posts: 1153 Location: Albert Lea, MN
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Usually the heater is housed in a stainless steel tube. I have had 2 hot tubs where they used a PVC tube. I would trace the wires from the control box to the heater. The flow switch almost always is on or near the element as well.
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mchad21
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:59 pm |
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:14 am Posts: 58
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thanks. Is it possible the element and switch are inside the CRL box (what is the proper term for that thing anyway)?
I don't see any switches, compression fittings or stainless steel...nothing except PVC. The only individual wire I see is the thermostat wire.
I guess the next step is to remove the cover of the 'box' and see what it looks like. I'll take another photo as well.
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charger_1
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:04 pm |
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:27 am Posts: 1153 Location: Albert Lea, MN
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Those additional photos must have been posted while I was typing my reply, as I did not see them. That wire going to the "PVC" is actually a ground wire attached to a steel tube. This is a current conductor. You might have two of these in the tub, with the heater element located in between. This is an old school way of doing the heat setup in the tub. Now days you have the stainless steel tube. You won't find one here. You will likely have a "Tee" fitting attached to a length of PVC in which the heater element is attached. Look for this. Usually they are 2" in diameter. It will have what looks like an electric water heater element in it, if I'm not mistaken. There may be a metallic or plastic box attached to the end of that "tee" fitting as well.
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mchad21
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:20 pm |
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:14 am Posts: 58
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charger_1
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:25 pm |
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:27 am Posts: 1153 Location: Albert Lea, MN
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that black box (image labeled 129-2952_IMG.JPG) is your heater housing. The box attached at the left side is where your power connections are. You have the type of element that has a square flange attached to the box with 4 bolts. That copper wire is in no way support for anyting, it's your ground for your current conductors. All metallic objects connected to the tub need to be bonded together, and that is what this is for.
I apologize, I forgot about that style of heater, even though I've had 3 of em LOL
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ATTENTION! USE THE ADVISE ON THIS FORUM WISELY! WE ARE NOT LIABLE FOR INJURIES, DEATH, DAMAGE, ETC. ARISING FROM THE USE OF THE INFORMATION IN THIS FORUM!
NOTE: I can't guarentee knowledge of all spas.
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