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dq72
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Post subject: PH and Alkalinity Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:34 pm |
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 11:38 pm Posts: 4 Location: Victoria BC
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I need some clarification on PH versus alkalinity. I read in the forum that to lower PH and Alkalinity is the same product.
However; what would I then do if my alkalinity was high, but PH is a bit low.
Both are right on the border, but I don't understand. My Alkalinity is as high as I can comfortably have it, yet I have a heck of a time trying to keep the PH up. If I add more PH up, like I've been doing (tablespoon every few days) won't the alkalinity go through the roof?
I use bromine as a sanitizer and fill the tub with soft water, so I have had to add calcium hardness increaser to get the calcium to proper levels.
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hottub.pool_boy
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:44 am |
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:52 pm Posts: 235 Location: connecticut
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PH INCREASER (SODIUM CARBONATE)/SODA ASH- RAISES PH ONLY.
ALKALINITY INCREASER (SODIUM BICARBONATE) RAISES ALKALINITY AND PH.
PH DECREASER WILL DECREASE PH. IT WILL ALSO DECREASE ALKALINITY IF ADDED IN SMALL AMOUNTS OVER SEVERAL DAYS.
AS A RULE, ALKALINITY IS ADJUSTED FIRST, THEN ADJUST PH, THEN CALCIUM.
_________________ Genuine HotSpring parts and Spaguard chemicals online
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Swine
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:02 pm |
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:50 am Posts: 903 Location: SW Florida
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Sodium carbonate will still increase alkalinity as well as PH.
Having high PH and low Alkalinity (or vice-versa) is a real pain. Patience required.
_________________ t'was a woman that drove me to drink, and I've never had the courtesy to thank her
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Dr. Spa
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:34 pm |
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:20 pm Posts: 123 Location: near San Francisco
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Sodium bicarbonate (sodium bicarb, bicarb or baking soda) has a pH of 8.3 and contributes bicarbonate to total alkalinity. Because the spa water pH is close to the pH of the bicarb, it will have a greater effect on TA than pH. So if you want to raise just the alkalinity with a small rise in pH, use bicarb. 1 lb of bicarb added to 10,000 gallons of water will increase TA by 7.15 ppm and increase pH by about .1 to .2 unit.
Sodium carbonate (soda ash) has a pH of 13.0 and contributes carbonate to total alkalinity. Because it has a high pH, soda ash will raise both pH and total alkalinity. 1 lb of soda ash added to 10,000 gallons of water will increase TA by 11.33 ppm and will increase the pH by about 1.0 unit.
_________________ Dr. Spa™
Manufacturer of traditional wooden hot tubs, and the finest insulating spa covers. Roberts Hot Tubs 1-800-735-5290
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dq72
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:43 pm |
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 11:38 pm Posts: 4 Location: Victoria BC
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That is exactly the explanation I was looking for.
Thank you,
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