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Swine
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:18 am |
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:50 am Posts: 903 Location: SW Florida
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I'm all in favor of working sanitizers, and I'm certainly no fuddy-duddy:P
I've been around long enough to recognize a snake-oil pitch when I hear one. Wait- maybe that does make me a fuddy duddy
I believe in science and research, not invalid comparisons of "Michigan Lakes are clear." Well, the lakes aren't over 100 degrees, over-flowing with sweaty adults and children either.
There's usually a grain of truth to these items, and everyone really is looking for that all "natural" effective sanitizer. I have no doubt that one day, we'll find it. But only if it's inexpensive to produce, with a large profit margin
Good luck with the Spa-Moss 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:21 am |
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:20 pm Posts: 123 Location: near San Francisco
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If it reduces your need for a water clairifier by 1%, then technically it lowers your need for chemicals
Many fungi is very difficult to kill. Generally it takes heat, high heat, such as fire to do the job.
Asbestos is also a naturally occurring substance.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:26 am |
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Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:39 am Posts: 1409 Location: Metro Atlanta, Georgia Region
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More research...
after viewing the video - I'm still not convinced. A lot of talk about how things can be better, but not why - or how I'm supposed to 'do this thing' using my existing equipment to reduce dependence on normal chemistry.
Mineral sanitizers, in combination with dichlor and ozone have been standard fare for many years now, and provide fantastic results. The only issue with that - are HOW THE HELL DO YOU DO IT? To get it just right? (Yes I can do it, but water here and there, as well as bathing / bather conditions are always different area to area, household to household).
I see the same question here with spa moss. HOW THE HELL DO YOU DO IT?
Which frustrates me. It makes the magic answer just as elusive for the average consumer. For an informational video, this was pretty good, however for a sales video, it was terrible.
There was no 1,2,3 at the end to convince me at the end - that spa moss will do better than what I'm doing now... Additionally, it did not address the video's self generated concerns about biofilm. Like ahem - so I get spamoss and use it... does that mean my biofilm problem goes away or becomes magically non-existent?
No. It was not directly addressed. Matter of fact, my concerns were indirectly addressed to some limited extent all throughout the video with references to everything BUT what I should have been concerned with.
Perhaps someone experienced with it can provide their chemistry formula and location and bather frequency to assist in analysis of the product, however, what really kicks my butt, is they talk about consumers being confused about how to take care of their water over and over, and they just can't ever get it right by spending hours and hours trying to balance and test etc...
But what the heck happens when you throw in spa moss? Some chemistry god comes along and tells you what to put in? Heck no. They answered NONE of the concerns that THEY brought up!
It all goes back to page one... the original claim on the site that it reduces chemical dependency - just without the 'how to', so I can become less confused like their users were 'before', and now are not????
PS: Hey Andy good to see you around, hope things are going well for you. Heck Swine I wasn't calling you a fuddy duddy by no means - Just trying to convey to the OP that I was open to all kinds of new stuff if it works. (I like new gimmicks!) Lol... heh heh..
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:34 am |
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:20 pm Posts: 123 Location: near San Francisco
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:35 am |
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Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:39 am Posts: 1409 Location: Metro Atlanta, Georgia Region
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And here's my point exactly...
Quote: Use an EPA-approved sanitizer at your discretion. SpaNaturally® is compatible with most sanitizers.
That is the END of their sanitizer discussion.
DUH!
So I'm supposed to go off on my own and figger that a dump truck full of dichlor is ok as long as its at my own discretion. haha!...
Now I can proudly wear the hat of mr fuddy duddy...
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:52 am |
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Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:39 am Posts: 1409 Location: Metro Atlanta, Georgia Region
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after thinking -(perhaps I should stop as usually no good thing comes of it)- about this, what if a customer 'at his own discretion' (following the instructions on company x website) decided not to use a sanitizer, or reduced sanitizer usage to bare minimums and one of his (or neighbors) kids got sick and died... can't forget what happened at some certain waterpark in north metro atlanta a few years ago when some baby crapped in the pool and a kid died from an infection... http://www.marlerclark.com/news/whitewater9.htm
That would leave the company quite liable for the end results of their instructions on 'how to'.
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Post subject: Spamoss Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:34 pm |
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:43 pm Posts: 18 Location: Lexington OH
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This is most of what i wanted. I thought some one out their might have tried this stuff. I am still new to hot tubs and have found them my new thing. Allot more nudity going on around my house since I bought a tub and I am tired.
But at any rate we have experienced rashes becuse of high combined chlorineas I went throught my learning process. I have got it down pretty good but would like to use as little chemicals as possible. Also I love my tub when I have just filled it up. For the next three or four days the water feels so crisp and clean and I would like to extend that as much as possible. Today is Wed and I filled my tub on Sat. The new feeling is almost gone.
I may still try SPAMOSS in the summer but if anyone has had any experience with this I would like to hear about it good or bad.
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