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Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby anarchy » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:10 pm

What's the best hottub out there? The price doesn't matter.

Big advantages are:
- low maintenance (or fully automatic)
- natural products (no chlorine, nature friendly)

I have also heard of tubs they build in at the side of your pool, which use the pool water. It has some extreme heaters and
makes the water inthere really hot when you turn it on. Or a whirlpool maybe, if its connectable to the same water system.
This might have the advantage of also having low maintenance. Anyone have experience with this? For me there don't need to
be 10000 blowers in the tub, as long as the water is really warm in winter I'm happy ;)

Thanks for your advice!
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby Spa World Online » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:21 pm

There are a number of decent "top end" brands:

Artesian
Hot Spring
Arctic
D1
Sundance
Coast

etc. All have decent products and warranties. If you want the best, get the biggest heater and the most pumps poss. Bigger heater means it wont get cold while ur sat in it. Artesian's top end stuff is about as good as it gets but its not cheap! (PS: I have never and probably will never sell Artesian, but if I was buying myself, I'd probably get one).

All these brands will do what you want, and will be better than having a spa built onto your pool; an expensive waste of time in my opinion.

I'd find a local expert who can help install it, set it up, and show you how to use/look-after it.

This assumes of course that money is no object.
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby In deep water » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:19 pm

Buying a spa with the biggest heater is a ridiculous statement :roll: and even ones with a lot of pumps is not always the best way to go. For one, most spas use either a Laing type heater or the old standard 2 to 3" S/S tube type with a 5.5kw heating element,even the Laings are 5.5kw Unless you go gas your only get so much heat out of the element. You want your heater to stay on all the time with all pumps running, go with a 60 amp breaker and a good quality spa. I believe some of the Artesians with 5 pumps wont allow the heater to run even on 60 amps?

Best advice is to go with a spa that fits you and your needs specially if budget is not a factor. The brands mentioned are all nice spas and they all for the most part use similar heaters.
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby TomTheSpaGuy » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:46 pm

In deep water wrote:Buying a spa with the biggest heater is a ridiculous statement :roll: and even ones with a lot of pumps is not always the best way to go. For one, most spas use either a Laing type heater or the old standard 2 to 3" S/S tube type with a 5.5kw heating element,even the Laings are 5.5kw Unless you go gas your only get so much heat out of the element. You want your heater to stay on all the time with all pumps running, go with a 60 amp breaker and a good quality spa. I believe some of the Artesians with 5 pumps wont allow the heater to run even on 60 amps?

Best advice is to go with a spa that fits you and your needs specially if budget is not a factor. The brands mentioned are all nice spas and they all for the most part use similar heaters.



I totally agree. Best advice always is to go with a spa that fits you and your needs. If budget is not a factor, check out Marquis Spas as well. If budget is a factor, you can look into rotational molded spas from Freeflow Spas as well.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby bobm » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:34 am

i have been on many boards and have read info for hours and hours,and it seems like these hot tubs have problems.of any make.some more than others.its very frustrating deciding on one to buy.
maybe i will just soak in the bath tub....
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby bobm » Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:30 am

i just went through the forum on leaks and plumbing and hot springs by far have more complaints than any other tub.surprisingly artic has few as that is one of the biggest complaints about them.
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby spartacus_33 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:34 am

Been looking at Arctic Spas (Glacier) and Limelight Spas (Flair).... best I can do is around $7500. Any comments on Cal Spas? This is what COSTCO sells ($5000)... just wondering?

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I just looked at the Cal Spas (Avalon line) yesterday. Priced very similar to the Arctic (Glacier) and Limelight (Flair). The Avalon seems to be a little cheezier however... the controls and jets just seem to be of less quality. Warranty seems very good however.

Still not sure which is the best way to go... the Arctic has a very thick insulated outer shell, with unsupported hoses that when running will be full of water and heavy... the others are "full foam" which could present issues when servicing leaks.

So far... the Arctic Glacier is my top pick.

Comments?

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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby geppert » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:52 pm

Hey Steve, we are looking for our first hot tub. I have been doing a ton of research on the internet. One local dealer has a CalSpa on the floor for a good price however my research indicates that they have a poor reputation in the industry for warranty among other issues. It has kind of steered me away from them.
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby spartacus_33 » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:57 am

geppert,

Thanks for your comments. I agree, the Calspas tubs are NOT the way to go. I was leaning towards an Acrtic spa, but the local dealer is just a jerk! He's defensive, a braggard and greedy.

I wet tested a couple others, Hot Springs Spas (nice jets, but pricy) and Jacuzzi. I've made my decision and am currently awaiting delivery of a Jacuzzi 355. Great jets, great warranty and reputation, great local dealer and they gave me a very good price in comparison to all the others I tested.
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby SpaAl » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:50 pm

First , I am by no means a hot tub salesman , owner of a spa shop, or considered to be an expert. I will however give you my personal experience with the one I own. I got my tub several months ago for health reasons. I own a Morgan Monaco 850. It is not a cheap spa. The main selling point was that the store here let me try it at their location for about 5-6 days afternoons. They have all the parts and technicians there that work for them. I also have friends that own Morgans and they came highly recommended. The 40 yr warranty on the tub was pretty impressive and the 6 yr warranty on all pumps and electrical was also a big plus. The model I chose has 3 pumps and I do have a 60 amp breaker to handle it. I had a leak last week at the fitting for the filter/chemicals (Bromine tube/chemical) , and I blew the lights modulator out when I put in the breaker without turning the system panel buttons off,,,,,,,probably my fault. The tech was here the next day drained and put in the new piece and said he would have to order the light modulator ....probably 3-4 days to get in....It is just a plug in piece so hopefully will be in shortly. I was down for 3 days from the time I called and it took 24 hours of that to allow the PVC glue to dry. I was up and running and enjoying the spa. It has been a real blessing. I tried the lesser model Morgans but after getting in the Monaco 850 it was a no brainer. I am thrilled with my spa and the fact I have competent sales people and technicians right here where I live. I believe that all hot tubs have problems ,,,,as we can see from the many people posting here but I also believe having a good support mechanism is also a key to having a good experience from enjoying one. Without support and good technicians you will not enjoy your tub. Check out your local Morgan spa center and see if you like it. Spaal
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby Dan.the.spa.man » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:12 pm

bobm wrote:i just went through the forum on leaks and plumbing and hot springs by far have more complaints than any other tub.surprisingly artic has few as that is one of the biggest complaints about them.


I would also venture to guess that it's due to the volume of tubs that are out there. Most companies (even some of the good ones) don't have 1/10th of the production and sales numbers as the #1 selling Watkins brand.
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby Mississauga » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:32 pm

Check out the D1
the Amore Bay
the Sarena Bay
these should also be in your list of spas...
check them out......
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby Spa_Tech_Services » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:12 pm

I would suggest atleast looking at Beachcomber Hot Tubs. There product is solid and thing that sticks out with them is that they found something that works and stuck with, they didn't try to make it faster for assembly or add the bells and whistles to it like most went out and did. Sure they have the lighting package and stereo options, but what hot tub doesn't have that nowadays. Also if you ask the beachcomber doesn't come with head rests, why because they fall apart with your water chemistry, so they just avoid that whole issue all together by not includine them. (by the way headrests on most hot tub manufacturers are only a one year warranty cause they know they fall apart). Beachcomber does sell ozonators in their tubs but the factory doesn't push them cause their not 100% proven yet there appx 80%-90% proven. (and they do work), but because it's not a for sure thing, beachcomber doesn't push them onto there dealers for their sales pitch, but some dealers are going to be different.
So I would atleast check them out and see if any models catch your eye. And don't be fooled by the whole pumps underneath my steps (cause the pumps are on the outside of the spa and not on the inside and optional to have them on the inside) they work fine they don't freeze they have a antifreeze protection line from your cir. pump to the wetends of the jet pumps. You should get longer life out of your pumps that are running cooler rather than in 30-40 degrees, with the heat lock systems.
Give them a shot and see if you like any of there models.
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Re: Best hottub out there, price doesn't matter

Postby ace06 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:23 am

I am looking to replace a recently inherited hot tub with a new, energy efficient model. I agree with teh title that price doesn't really matter to me as much as quality does. I have read these posts and there are some very good ideas. With energy efficient comes relatively cheap maintenance, which I think is true of any quality product. For example, I know Spa Filters can range in price, and operating costs are definitely more of a concern for me than the initial costs of purchasing the spa! Your thoughts are welcome!
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